Well, According To The FP,

"Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire" (arch-duke-maxyenko)
06/07/2014 at 00:37 • Filed to: None

These are OK

DISCUSSION (45)

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 00:39

Yes, but according to the FP, our guru is still meditating. So the front page is wrong on two accounts.

Brian Silvestro > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 00:40

Why.

CRider > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 00:42

Compared to the Sebring, they are ok. Not good, just ok. With the v6 they're a decent rental car.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 00:45

The only time these are good is when this is the only other option.

Kinja'd!!!

ly2v8-Brian > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 00:48

Kinja'd!!!

ly2v8-Brian > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 00:48

Kinja'd!!!

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 00:52

Because the guru is meditating

Brian Silvestro > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 00:55

I made a similar joke earlier.

It was just a picture of a 200, and the word "ok."

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 01:04

I was out earlier.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 01:07

because it has 4 wheels and a steering wheel

it can go places

or something

Brian Silvestro > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 01:08

Well it was merely a comment, so I'm not surprised you didn't see it.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 01:08

FP is awful.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 01:12

It looks exactly like the other car made by the same company. My nice ex had one. It sucked. The door nearly fell off one day. Not even kidding.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 01:18

But the Cobalt is absolute shite? Okay FP, okay.

M54B30 > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 03:51

the rebates necessary to make me ever consider one of these would bankrupt chrysler

Roberto G. > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 07:24

Thank you for the hint: that's what I'll be saying from now on, every time someone should point out that my post was already on Oppo, or on the FP.

jkm7680 > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 08:40

Well according to Hertz rent-a-car they are also OK. Uhm, that's about it though. Possibly Enterprise, Dollar, and the other one.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 12:09

Well that's awful. Hopefully the new one is better. It does look better.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 12:35

speaking of unreliable cars did you read this series on Porsche's deadly sins?

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 12:39

NO WHAT IS THAT

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 12:44

All links are embedded early in this post:

http://jalopnik.com/richard-hammon…

I just read them all. Fascinating.

It was dumb luck that I got the more reliable 997.2. I didn't know it was more reliable than a 997.1. I just wanted factory Bluetooth and touch screen nav and LED tail lights, lol.

It would have cost less to get a 997.1 C2S and been the same power. But I wanted modernity and the warranty.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 12:49

And I like the look of the rear of the 997.2 much more. Plus if you want and automatic, you basically have no choice because PDK bro.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 12:51

The info in those articles is just plain amazing. Porsche does not care about their customers.

The only time they do the right thing is if you create bad press or they are worried about you doing that.

I think they might be bigger jerks than Ferrari.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 12:54

They're like the German version of Ferrari, just more efficient at being jerks. wörk wörk wörk

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 13:05

Hahahahahaha that was fucking awesome

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/07/2014 at 13:26

Never. Never ever ever.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 13:26

Hehehe they probably have a small department somewhere dedicated to making Porsche more efficient at being jerks.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 13:45

Once you read the posts you'll be convinced that they have a large department dedicated to making them more efficient jerks.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 13:51

That's probably what their new CA headquarters are for!!!

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 13:55

Hahaha

It's in LA, right?

If so then that makes so much sense. LA is jerk Capitol.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 14:31

Everything's falling into place now. They're gonna have a racetrack, you should go there!

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 14:36

I wonder if they'll give me free track time there if I buy the GT3 RS version of the 991 replacement.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 14:46

I read somewhere that if you're looking to buy a car you can test drive it on the track.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 14:49

NO WAY

We must pretend to be buying cars from them once a month.

And we must both save for the future GT3 RS I mentioned. Why? Because it will be the last bespoke GT3 RS. After that the 911 will have the modular chassis shared with other VAG products.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 14:52

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 14:53

Yup...

Luckily Porsche will be the one that develops this modular platform that will be shared with the R8 and Lambo.

But the whole idea of it still kind of makes the future 911 seem less special.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 15:17

I keep forgetting lambo and Porsche are cousins. It would definitely be less special.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 15:21

The new Lambo is already last special than the last. Everyone says it's too Audi-like

All the VAG sports cars will eventually be the same thing with different badges and bodywork. They'll all have PDK and your performance will directly relate to how much you spend.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 15:31

Related - I think the Aventador may be the best overall value right now.

I know it's very, very expensive. But I think it's still the best way for an ultra rich person to spend his money. Reasons:

1. It's a real Lambo. The V12 isn't shared with any VAG products (as far as I know).

2. It looks like the sex

3. It sounds like the sex

4. While the F12 may outperform it the Lambo looks better because mid engine format. They're both fast enough for public roads

5. The transmission tries to break your back

6. There are no cars cheaper than it that look more exotic

7. There are no cars more expensive than it that are really worth spending more. I see an Aventador maybe once every couple months. That's rare enough. Don't need to spend more on a Pagani.

8. The roadster version is totally impractical. Which a Lambo should be.

9. When painted grey it looks like a seriously powerful weapon

10. It's a Lambo, dude

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 17:02

I was going to say F12 until you mentioned the back-breaking transmission of the Lambo. You might be right. Pagani would be the only argument, but it's almost 3 times as much money.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 18:30

plus the Lambo looks way better

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 18:31

Well since you pointed out what the back looks like, I'm inclined to agree with you.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 18:32

Lol you never saw the posts about that when it first launched ?

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
06/07/2014 at 18:35

Nothing like that, no. Maybe I did, but I probably blocked them out of my mind. Now I can't, and it's all your fault.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
06/07/2014 at 18:39

Haha I'm the worst

Well actually it's Ferrari's fault...

Imagine if the next one retains that design detail and goes turbo charged. I'll give up on them completely.